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"Läuft seit 12 Jahren!"
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Overall rating: 4.2 / 5 from 10 reviews.
Review topics: ["performance","problem","stove","dragonfly","water","kit","fuel","canister","gas","flame"].
"Läuft seit 12 Jahren!"
"So why the review after so long? Because I used it at Leeds Festival this weekend where the family used it for all our meals and they were surprised I’d had it so long, only to establish is 25 years tot eh month! So here is a very worthy review. I bought my Dragonfly in August ’99 while serving as a British Soldier. I was attracted to it because of its ability to burn almost anything and more so because I was an Army helicopter pilot and it would burn aviation fuel – free and available 24/7. On its first run out I enjoyed the simplicity of the operation and was delighted in the variable flame. Being able to simmer and I mean really simmer by having a very small flame meant I could cook really good meals. On simmer it’s not a noisy as some would make out and I’ve never woken anyone up on simmer. On full blast it sounds like a jet engine but it will boil enough water for a brew a mean to wash with in less than 3 minutes. I’ve gone head-to-head with so many burners over the years and its pretty much the fastest or equals the fastest, but nothing can simmer as low. I’ve used it in Canada in the deepest of winters, the Oman in the hottest of summers, in Belize in the wettest jungle I’ve experienced and on almost every continent on our planet. I’ve used it above 10,000 feet plus where normal gas canisters are useless and Trangia’s take forever and it’s been flawless. My Dragonfly has been abused ‘royally’ with 10 years of fully military service including war zones like Afghanistan and then through 15 years of camping and wild camping across our beautiful planet. I have cleaned it frequently and as a result my spare parts kit is still fully intact. Honest. I’d love to guess how many hours its been used but its impossible, but what I will say is has never ever failed to work and has always impressed everyone who’s seen it in action – it deserves a medal of honour. I am now convinced it will outlive me and will keep on burnin’ … Happy 25th birthday Dragonfly"
"Using regular white gas, this thing will cook a 1.7 liter pot of food allright. And there's plenty of energy for making proper food, not just the heat&eat stuff. This is a stove, not a coffee Maler-thing. Upside: Versatiity. Downside: Size and noise level. It really is noisy."
"So I've very happily run a Whisperlite International for 20 years. In that time it's mainly been run on unleaded 95 octane petrol. I've rebuilt and serviced the pump and stove it a handful of times and it's been super reliable, super hot and generally a piece of bullet proof kit. I've just bought the Dragonfly as I've always wanted one, thought the simmer control option would be good and being able to run it on diesel means I can use the same fuel as the camper van. So this review is less about the individual performance of the dragonfly and more about a comparision with the Whisperlite and asking myself, now I've used both... which one would I buy again? And the simple answer: for back packing I'd take the Whisperlite because.... both stoves have approximately the same heat power output, the diameter of the pan supports is the same and I can use a 2.5L pan and cook for 4 on both stoves, the whisperlite pack size and weight is smaller plus it runs at an acceptable and sensible noise level. Reasons against the Dragonfly: If you are in a campsite it is so noisy you cannot make an early morning brew without waking people up - really. I can with the Whisperlight. The Dragonfly is heavier and bulkier for the same heat output (though it is a little more fuel efficient so on a multi-week trip there will be a small reward). While it is a true multi-fuel stove, and burns diesel cleanly, I've not found a light, weatherproof and reliable way to ignite diesel to prime and heat the stove. The simmer control is good but the Whisperlite can be controlled with a little experience. The nose disadvantage out weighs the simmer control for me. In conclusion, I'm glad to have both but I can see the Dragonfly staying in the camper van and being used for wilderness 'van life' cooking where it's convenient to only need one type of fuel for the van, heater and stove. Having tried both, the Whisperlite continues to be the best performance, to weight and size option for backpacking. Especially as it fits inside the Big Titan pot/kettle ON a build quality note..... I'm not a fan of the new pump or new pump to bottle seal. The old seal was an o ring which could be found all over the world in a hardware store. Now you have to get the MSR part to reseal this - that could be a big issue when in a remote location. Also, comparing the mold quality of the new pump with that of the 20 year old Whisperlite pump.... honestly, I thought I'd bought a cheap rip off at first. There's flashing from a poorly machined mold and the quality of the base plastic looks lower, cheaper and weaker. Plus the new pump shaft design has a narrow section in the middle which weakens it. ....all in all the pump quality is below the level that has been typical of MSR in the past. ...however, to be fair, let's see how long it lasts in the field. All I can say for now is it looks cheaper than the price tag and the quality I expect from MSR. And finally, 1, Why MSR have you change the windshield to this design with a massive gap in it??? You now have to fold it on the thinnest area and it's bound to fail earlier, not to mention be a poor windshield because of the massive gap. I'm currently using the one from my Whisperlite. 2, The factory installed jet was sooo tight I bent the supplied tool trying to unscrew it. Fortunately I had a large proper screwdriver in the van and had to use a lot of strength to loosen it. If I'd not had tools with me I would have been stuck. The stove should be supplied in a state that is field serviceable from the get go!"
"In which pot does it fit when the stove is folded? Whats de name of the pot from MSR"
"What's there not to love with this stove! 25 years as my only stove and only had to rebuild it a few times lol. I think I've burn't every type of fuel in this bad boy. It's not quiet, but no matter the weather this thing cooks everything with ease. Spend the extra, buy the best. You wont be disapointed. However, please reduce the price of the maintenance kit.... I've paid for the stove 3 times now in parts"
"Ive had major problems with two Dragonflys recently bought. They come with problems brand new out of the box. First one cross threaded the adjustment spindle the 2nd time testing it. I was sent a replacement stove, as I was afraid this stove would do the same I dissasembly the flamespreader, jet, shaker needle and the adjustment spindle. Started cleaning it with provided cleaning tool for the Dragonfly. You have no idea what amount of sized gunk of production residue there was left inside the stove. I lost counts of how many times I did this, and after the effort cleaning it. I gave up and sent it back. The spindle on the 2nd dragonfly did also start ti cross tread. When adusting it under load and fuel pressure you could feel the choppyness of the flameadjuster. It feelt like it would crossthread any moment. I would like to send MSR pictures of these two stoves and their problems. Im very pleased with my other msr liquid stoves and the two dragonfly does not feel like msr quality or workmanship. - Kristoffer"
"The wick on mine disintegrated and could not be reattached (doesn't seem like a critical piece because it works fine, just shoots flaming gas onto the ground now and then). After maybe 200 uses, the pump's pump cup came detached and the bottle wouldn't hold pressure. You put it back on, and it pops off in 2-3 strokes even when lubricated. Had to glue it with JB weld in a pinch, but the pump rod won't go it all the way now. Someone told me they had this problem and had a friend that had this happen in the first week. This seems to be the Achilles heel."
"This is a luxurious stove. Of course, because it can simmer SUPPPEERR FINE, it has to have more moving parts than the robust MSR XGK-EX. I compare it to that goldie popular stove., but this MSR Dragonfly is more stable and more controllable than those liquid stoves. The only downside is the pump. I have to create an adapter to connect from MSR XGK-EX to Lindal adapter, to be able to use a metal pump."
"I own the Dragonfly about 20 years and it never caused any problem. The flame regulation works very well and the burner is powerful enough to heat up even pots for small groups. However there's one downside: Never try to boil water for a coffee early in the morning on a fully packed campsite if you don't want to be assassinated."